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5/9/12 8:09 A

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I have been entering my 5 yo Cyrlls renal disease presentation and therapy notes in the group interactions string. This is usually an older cat problem so there may be some helpful information there. I am having to use meds on him that were not around when Jamie devoped renal disease as an older cat. She did very well on K/D alone until she was killed by a car. She had been on K/D for about 5 years more than 20 years ago. Cyrll is having more severe problems and will have to have other meds to control hyperphosphatemia and hyokaelemia. He is showing severe muscle weakness without control and it seems that K/D alone will not be enough in his case.

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I had 12 yo Felicity put down the the Mon before Easter she had rapid deterioration. An ultrasound showed a large tumor in her bladder that was backing urine up into her kidneys and metastases in her kidneys and sublumbar lymph nodes. Cats are good at hiding things until endstage, but the last weekend she became suddenly weak and quit eating normally and started hiding so I had to keep her in my ICU crate to treat her supportivly over the weekend. She was one of my bottle babies. I still haven't gotten over it yet.

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Well I'm just checking in. I know I'm not the only one with older cats. My big problem now is 2 younger bullies. I am trying to encourage other exercises with the 2 two year olds, but there is still some hematuria and inappropriate urination even though I try to get Felicity out briefly most days and provide frequent litterbox escorts. I would like an outdoor run, but even if I could afford it my family probably wouldn't let me have it put in. All three of them were bottle babies and the two year olds were abandoned babies from the same colony but they were not littermates and were not bottlefed at the same time since they are not that close in age. One was a spring babby and one was a fall baby.

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Well we ended up putting Pandy down on July 11, 2011. He went very peacefully in my arms with me whispering sweet and loving memories in his ear.....with the promise that we will be together again some day.

We decided that we should have all the older animals have their blood work done so that we know if there is something we were missing....(yes a small fortune is being spent on this). Last week I took Bruno which is 17.5 yrs old, the vet said that blood work came back really well overall, however he has the very beginning stages of kidney failure....she said not to worry right now but to have it re-checked in 6 months. Thursday I will be taking Sassy (18.5 yrs old) and Morgan (15+ yrs old) for their blood work. I believe that Morgan has the beginnings of hyperthyroidism so we need to find out and start treatment if needed.

Well this is my update for the week, hope everyone and their fur babies have a healthy and wonderful week ahead.

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Unfortunately we are going through a few senior problems with 4 kitties over the age of 16 yrs. We are going to be having to put Pandy down within the next couple of days, his stomatitis is getting to the point that he can not eat much without severe pain. The vet has done everything she can short of pulling his teeth and I will not put him through that at his age of 21+ yrs old on top of the $400- $600 for the surgery. We had tests done on him a few weeks ago (blood, urine) to the tune of $400....everything came out amazing, however the vet said that we basically had two options, have teeth pulled or put down (the large doses of antiboitics/medications really didn't help this time). This is the second vet that has told us this. Life gets very stressful when there is nothing that you can do to help these fur babies.

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I know I can't be the only one around with older cats or cats with medical problems. Where is everybody?

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Stomatitis can be caused as a sequellae to viral or bacterial infections (some of which hang out for life inside of the cells ready for release for another episode in times of stress) or allergies or inflamatory GI disease. Has the cat been tried on a hyperallergenic diet? Do not rule out dry diets. They can have water added before serving to soften them (and a bit of canned food can be added in too) AND they are higher in fiber. The fiber may help move the stools through before they become so hard and dry. The prescription hypoallergenic diets (there are a number of them through several manufacturers now) may help if there is some inflamatory GI problem. There are a few over the counter "hypoallergenic" diets to. Make sure your Sr is getting a high quality diet. They need a bit higher energy and easier digestability. You might need to mix 2 diets to make what he needs.

Has he has a at least fairly recent Sr profile done? Did it show any abnormalities? Is his PCV within the normal range?

Does he have gingivitis too?

There is a possibility that he could be helped by being on antibiotics periodically to control secondary infections with certain problems. But his medical workup has to show a real need.
The same thing with a possible short term steroid treatment.

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I do have a question for everyone concerning our 21 yr old senior cat. Pandy has stomatitis and has been being treated for it by our vet although there is really nothing that helps it too much. His canned food is pureed fresh for him daily, sometimes I have to spoon feed him or syringe it too him if he chooses not to eat. He does drink water although not as much as I would like for him too. My question to everyone.....Pandy has a problem with real hard stools and has for years. I have been giving him Omega 3 oil to help him pass these awful stools a bit easier and it has been helping. My problem is I am not sure if I am giving him too much....does anyone know the correct amount that a cat should be given?? Please don't tell me ask his vet....it is a long story that really is not worth repeating. Many thanks.

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You might try to make (or have made) a "creep feeder" of sorts. You would need a wire cage with gaps big enough for her to get in, but too small for them to fit through. There also has to be enough floor space that probing paws from the "chuncky" older cats who are sure they are starving can't fish out the kitten food they don't need. She also might tolerate actually being locked breifly in a wire crate to eat if it was not moved into another room away from everybody else.

Unless they need special diets, have you tried them (the mature males) on an indoor food of some type? Are you meal feeding them, or letting them have food available all of the time? Limit feeding the mature cats is usually best. Geriatrics generally need more frequent feedings and more digestible food as well. So your older guys may need that someday.

You also might want to try to involve them in some toy pursuit activites if possible. Younger felines frequently like to chase things too anyway. Paper balls, dragged string etc.. Mine love a shiny multiribbon toy attatched to a little plastic rod by a string. Cinbad likes to kill the little bundle of feathers that can be attached to the same rod and string.

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I have 2 mature male neutered cats and a kitten. Of course the male cats a shall we say pleasantly plump....I am concerned in an effort to not let them get any bigger the kitten is not getting what she needs. And if I put her in a room by herself for an extra meal she won't eat it. She does not like to be alone. She especially does not like closed doors unless the other cats are with her. Any ideas how I can make sure she gets what she needs? By the way, I got her at 4 months and is now 6 months old.

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I didnt know that either. WOW!

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Wow, I didn't know a cat could get herpes or any of the other things that you mentioned. I hope your Dennis is doing better. His illness sounds complicated.

My Jazmina is doing okay with her teeth I think although I haven't been good about trying to brush them. We found out she has a dislocated shoulder which evidently is very rare for cats, unlike dogs, and is nearly impossible to operate succesfully on. We took down her cat tree and donated it to the vet's office. We put a chair near the bed so she only has to jump half the distance twice. When she lays on my lap she sort of does that stability ball drape move and I think she is actually trying to stretch out her shoulder. She seems to be doing better going up and down stairs as long as I don't let her do it very often. I guess we just have to accept getting older...not just for us but for them, too.

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Well I took Dennis in for a dental since he needs some teeth removed, but high renal enzymes got him sent back. Now I get to try to get him to eat some K/D with antibiotics every day for a while. Since he is a member of a large feral colony, I also have to stand guard to keep one of the others from eating it. I guess we will be trying bloodwork again in a few days. Now on top of all of this I have another micro kitty someone dumped. I couldn't leave her screaming in the fast food parking lot. She is very used to people and looks like she is less than 2 mos old, but she acts older so I think she is another of the dwarves someone dumps out here. I have several now. At least she doesn't seem not have bordatella, parvo, or herpes or anything like a number of them have been dumped out here before have had.

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Yesterday, Jazmina had a thorough tooth cleaning at the dentist. She's still a little weird after the experience and with the anesthesia and all. I realize she's 6 years old at this point, but I have trained her to do or not do various things over the years and I think, although it might take awhile, I could probably get her to let me brush her teeth reasonably well about twice a week. That's my goal anyway. Thanks for the advice. :)

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Many cats will be pretty intolerant to having their teeth brushed if they weren't started very young that is why the a bit of the special dental diets are often a lot easier. If you are trying to brush their teeth they make special toothpastes and brushes you can be purchased through many vet offices or through a pet supply companies.




Gas is generally a large bowel sign. It may be a response to something that the cat can't digest too well passing through the GI tract. Soft smelly stools can also be a sign of that. Is the cat getting any dairy products. A lot of cats become lactose intolerant as they age. Of course some cats are lactose intolerant as kittens, and the percentage will increase with age. If it is not a dairy problem there could be another ingredient in the dieet the cat is having problems with. A diet change might help. You will probably be looking at the more special diets.

Another thing I have seen gas associated with at times is tapeworms or occasionally another GI parasite problem. This can be intermitant. You may also see periodic soft stinky stool problems in there cats.

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I just started reading this thread from the beginning and have noticed a common theme of bladder and kidney problems, so I figured I'd relay what I've learned and how.

I have several kitties at the moment, 3 of which are siblings - 2 male (Tom & Jerry) and 1 female (Callie). When we took them in to get fixed, Jerry had not developed at all (nickname: no balls), so he didn't get surgery that day. After a few months, we started having trouble getting him to come in at night, so we took him back to the vet and they had to cut him open to "fix" him - first time in my vet's extensive years as a vet that he had seen a cat that didn't drop at least one side (he's retiring this month for about the 3rd or 4th time).

Anyway, about a year ago, we started noticing what we call pissed kitty syndrome on the kitchen table, on the stove, and in various other places around the house (kitty pee). Then, we noticed that Jerry wasn't eating, was vomiting and was generally acting ill. Since Jerry likes to eat and will pee in the toilet, the hubby and I started comparing notes and we ended up at the ER vet on a Sunday night. $475 later, they gave us some nausea meds and sent us home after giving him IV fluids. The next day, I was having problems getting him to take the meds and he wasn't getting better, so I called our regular vet. After a night there (at less than $100), they figured out that he had blockage from a bladder infection and gave him an enema along with a long-acting antibiotic. One smelly ride home and a difficult bath later, he was fine (but still a bit smelly).

After that, we got to talking to the people at the vet's office and learned that pissed kitty syndrome can be a sign of a bladder infection. With 7 indoor/outdoor cats, it can be difficult to know which one is sick. We've had a few more episodes, but it is generally one of the three (or all) from that liter. If Jerry tries to pee in the toilet and can't, he goes to get checked out. If we can't tell who it is, we watch to see who is acting sick or take all three to the vet.

In all my years of pet ownership, we have always fed our cats Meow Mix and even had a cat live to be 18 or 19 on it, so I don't really question the food we are giving them. On the other hand, we have started supplementing with a Purina Urinary Tract cat food and canned cat food. The vet's office has suggested going to all wet food or prescription diet, but understands the financial side of feeding 7 to 9 cats, so they have been working with us to figure out what works best.

So, throughout all of this, the one thing we have found that seems to be working is hair ball reduction. Since we started giving the kitties hair ball medicine on a regular basis, we've only had one or two more episodes of a bladder problem and almost always only with Jerry. It seems that whatever caused him to not have any balls also affects his urinary tract.

Oh - I know this is long, but before I forget...cats and gas. Woo wee! do we ever have gaseous cats. Tom is the worst, with Spencer coming in a close second. Tom will be sleeping and the next thing you know, you're running from the room. He's even tooted!

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One of my dau and her (now) husband adopted litter mates before they were married in '99. My dau called in tears because Pepper developed kidney problems: one was atrophied, and the other wasn't working well. This morning Miss Pepper was helped over the Rainbow Bridge. I mourn with them. Especially since my dau has to find a way to grieve and at the same time, help her 7 yr-old dau understand. When the kidney problem was discovered on Monday, my dau told HER dau that Pepper was VERY sick, and the dr couldn't help make her well. My granddau asked if Pepper was going to die. "yes". Thank you for sharing our sorrow.

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I took my cat back to the vet today for the issue she is having with limping in either one or both of her front legs. While we were walking back to the car after the appointment was over, I nearly lost my pants. I knew they were too big but the next size is still a wee bit too small. If I can only make it about 9? more pounds down the scale, I shouldn't have to worry about that kind of problem for awhile again. A positive yet slightly embarrassing experience. Good thing half of the on-lookers were animals. emoticon

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4/5/10 10:55 A

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How did you convince your cat not to fight you on the teeth brushing? I tried that when she was younger and I didn't have much luck. Any tips?

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Oh yeah, you might look into getting a bit of a dry dental diet to help keep the tarter deposition under better control. This can be used as a treat or a topdressing. Some individuals seem more prone to tarter build up than others. Sometimes diet can have a role too, but this may be correctable. Some cats will tolerate regular "toothbrushing" too. They make special bushes and pet toothpastes. I have done this too.

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At 6 she is early middle aged and will hopefully have years ahead. Even though money is tight, she is approaching the age where routine bloodwork is recommended. It is a good investment to have her first "geriatric" profile to detect any developing health before they become severe and to make sure that she does not have any problems that could make anaesthesia dangerous. If you have read other posts, you may have already seen where I entered that I still have Sheila because I canceled her spay because she had abnormally high liver enzymes even though she looked and acted like she was healthy. She was spayed last spring and has been doing fine after her liver enzymes came back down after antibiotic therapy. It is always a good idea to have at least a preanesthic profile before any anesthesia to pevent bad reactions from undetected problems.







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Hi. My name is Sage and I'm new here.

I took my cat, Jazmina, to the vet today because she had been noticeably limping off and on for a few weeks. She is 6 years old now, but when she was about 2 years old, she was hit by a car while outside and suffered a leg broken in two places. What I didn't know at the time was what I found out today. Her front right elbow must have also been injured in the accident and now she seems to either have reinjured it or have some sort of early arthritis developing. I have started giving her joint supplements just this week and the vet said that should really help her long term. I took the cat tree down and put obstacles on the registers so that she couldn't jump up on and down from as many things. (The limping seems to get worse when she starts jumping around a lot.) She needs her teeth cleaned, too, as soon as I can get the money together. I hate the cost of going to the vet but her being as healthy and as happy as she can be combined with the peace of mind knowing I am doing everything possible for her is more than worth it.

I wish all of you other cat caretakers and your cats a very pleasant day, and may all their aging issues find some alleviation today and in the future.

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3/28/10 1:07 A

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It seems like many people ask for information, but they rarely make later entries either asking for more specific information or entering what they have done or found out. Has they problem been solved? Every case will be diferent, and some take a little longer to get worked through than others.

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There are several things that could be going on, but look at it this way....at least the cat is choosing a more easily cleanable place than some others like on carpeting and furniture.

You gave no real information on that cat other than you have 4 others, so first how many litter pans do they have and are they kept clean (checked at least several times a day). You also should have several litter pans and they should be in different locations. This is particularly important if the cat is a lower ranking cat...especially if the if this is a more recent change. I carry one of my oldest cats to the litter pan seceral times a day since she developed health problems (she will be on cardiac meds for the rest of her life) and lost her alpha cat status. Intimidation when trying to use the box is a good reason to try somewhere else. It is kind of hard for them to defend themselves or avoid attack when they are doing that. You should probably have at least 3 litter pans. Litter type aversion can be a problem for some cats.

First, how old is the cat? Has the cat always done this or has this started more recently. If this is a recent onset problem have the cat checked for any health problems that may be developing. Your vet may want to do bloodwork and possibly other diagnostic testing. Pain associated with using the litter pan could be another good reason to try somewhere else. Some conditions may be helped with a prescription or other special diet.

So to start with is thr cat getting bullied if it tries to use the box? Are the boxes kept clean (some cats are so picky they don't like to use soiled boxes at all. I have seen several owners who added more litter pans to help with this. Does this can have a problen causing pain when it uses the box? Does this cat have another health problem that it needs help with?

That should give you a place to start.


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HI MY TEAM FRIENDS, I AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ONE OF MY 5 CATS WHO LIKES TO MAKE ON MY KITCHEN FLOOR, IF ANY ONE HAS ANY OTHER ADVICE PLEASE LEAVE ME A COMMENT.

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There are two things that will stop normal jumping. Vision problems and pain. If he has not had a recent checkup, you might want to schedule one. You may be able to get him on a supplement that usually can be added into a little canned food that may help. If he has not had blood work anytime in the last several years they may want to do that to make sure there are not any other problems that they may be able to help.

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My cat developed a UTI when he was 8, he's now 14. He had become more lethargic that normal and then one night he started leaking pee and blood. OMG, scary moment. Rushed him to the emergency clinic and he had crystals and infection. They gave us some special food and drugs. He hasn't had any problems since. Over the last year he stopped jumping onto high places. If he can't get his front paws on it, he doesn't go. This cat used to get ontop of everything: wall cabinets, top of the refrigerator, on the top rail of the shower door. Now he has a hard time getting onto my bed. =( Other than that he's very healthy and grouchy old man.

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There is a lot of lactose intolerance in cats and kittens with Siamese, Persian and Manx ancestry. I found out from the Persian breeders years ago that there is a product called cat sip that they can tolerate as a treat. You can find it at pet smart.

I have raised a number of feral babies from my colony on lactose intolerant infant formula. It's not ideal, but that has given me the best results since they pass white curd from both ends on all of the kitten formulas. Iams kitten is pretty expensive, but that is all I use now since the other kitten formulas contail milk and once again there are very unhappy kittens. Most adult rations do not contain milk because most adult cats can't tolerate much if any dairy even if they were not lactose intolerant as kittens.

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Thanks but for now Carbon Copy is at the vet in critical condition & oxgyen. I have a new topic out there explanining. Thanks for the info Breezy85.

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Metallicat1 and anyone else Cats are actually lactose intolerant hence the puking after milk. Did you know 1 cup of 1% milk for a cat is the equivalent to 4 cheesebugers to a human. If you are concened aboiut his hydration try the Whiskers cat milk you can find it in petstore and some grocery stores. I occasionally spoil mine with that and they keep that down. Also to help with any vommiting try Laxatone or something along those lines it helps with that and there are treats with a hairball control formula which eases the vommiting too. My cats are hairball prone so I am always looking for ways to avoid them and they have sensitives tummies too so it is a bit hard to find stuff to ease that.

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Good luck with Sassy & Muffin. Carbon Copy will be 15 tomorrow. He's lost weight, but eats well, he sneezes & ta couple of teeth are bad but he's too old for the stuff they use to put him to sleep while in surgery. He's had heart problems all his life but his heart is doing great! He's on Enalapril & Atenolol, same as humans. I worry about his sneezing but when he's on the Clavamox, he's fine. I just can't wait for the weather to get better.

Sneaky Pi just turned 16 in Nov. He is more vocal than ever. And the healthiest! Still likes his "junk" food, but it seems if he even gets a drop of milk, he throws up. He seems to drink a lot but isn't dehydrated. So far he's doing just fine, just getting more crotchety as any old man would. I feed them Iams for Senior Cats-hard food in the morning, Fancy Feast at night. They both also love their catnip once in awhile.

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I have a 15 soon to be 16yr old lil girl named Sassy she is in the very very very early stages of possibly kidney failure. At the age of 14 her vet reccommened yrs kideny panel check(crea/bun levels) they were ok but we on the rise. Back in November they were quite high so we put her on Science Diet precsription kidney dry cat food. Here levels were rechecked in late January and they went down and she is almost back in normal range. Senior cats(kitten born to 1yr, adult 1 yr to 7 yrs, senior 7+) I have reseached are prone to kidney failure, it is more common than I thought. Sassy's sister Muffin went through major waight loss but we have her on a more wet diet and that is bringing her weight back up but she is going blind and deaf slowly. But with the proper amount of vet care and love I am hoping that they both will be around for many more years.
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Sneaky Pi just turned 16 in Nov. last year. He seems to want to eat all the time. He meows like crazy when it's chow time. There seems to be nothing wrong with him. Plus his balance is getting a bit off. But I notice if I give him a differet brand of food, he sometimes throws up. Not good for feet in the morning.

Carbon Copy will be 15 Feb 5th. He keeps sneezing if he stays down in the basement too much. But at least his heart murmur is fine & he take his meds with no problem, as long as I use the Pill Pockets. Poor kitty was only 4mos old when he was passing bladder & kidney stones.He had a seizure last year. Thank God that never happened again. He isn't too fussy on what he eats. Though for both cats I used the Sr Iams in the morning. But to look at them, they act like kittens sometimes.

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If you are on treated water, clorine or flouride can cause problems. Clorine will separate out if it is allowed to sit....also important for water to be added to fishtanks or used for other reptiles, amphibians, birds, and other mammals. We are on well water here.

When a cat needs to be started on a Sr diet depends on the animal. If they start having problems maintaining good body condition....and they don't need a specific veterinary prescribed diet (periodic veterinary exams and serological profilining is a good idea to try to catch developing health problems like renal failure before the damage is severe) a Sr diet may help. Many practices will recommend a Sr profile periodically starting at around age 7 in cats that are not being worked up for any problems. I will always recommend having a presurgical profile be done with spays and neuters so there will be a baseline for comparison for later if problems should start to develope.

A preanesthetic profile can save an animals life. I still have Sheila because her profile showed dangerously high hepatic levels even though she appeared healthy. Anesthesia probably would have killed her if she had been spayed at 6 mos old. She is 4 1/2 (and spayed) now. Blood work can show if fluids might be a good idea during surgery and may help determine which drugs are used for that case...or if the surgery should be canceled for that day and rescheduled after the problem is corrected.

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For older kitties, you might want to be weary of what they eat and/or drink. I have 4 kitties, one of which turned 14 in November and suddenly became very sick this past summer. The other kitties did not get sick at all.

It started very subtly as occasional hairballs. The occasional upset stomach quickly progressed into him vomiting several (6-8) times daily. Within approx. 3-4 mos. he lost half his original body weight (losing about 8-9 lbs). In two weeks he lost 2 lbs.

I thought his sickness was due to the food he was eating, so I changed to a higher quality food thinking his aging body could not tolerate the additives in the cheaper food (he only eats dry cat food - no canned kitty food for him). He continued to vomit and kept getting worse. The vet did all kinds of tests and could find nothing medically wrong with him (x-rays, blood tests, etc.).

He got so bad that he refused to eat and drank very little, probably not wanting to bring it back up later. I had to force feed him to get something into his belly, mostly to no avail. Finally, I told the vet something was definitely wrong and he was getting worse.

Since I kept changing the food he was eating to no avail, I tried to change the water that I was putting into the water bowl. The water where I live is very hard and I thought I would try to give him filtered water and see how his body reacts. After changing to filtered water, he slowly began to recover and regain weight.

Sometimes it seems that simple things we easily overlook could possibly be the solution to the problems we face. Who would've thought that my kitty was reacting horribly to all the minerals (and other stuff) that could be in our water! Yes, humans may not show any reactions but our kitties are much smaller than us and would only need a very small amount of some foreign substance to have an adverse reaction.

Through all of this, kitty is doing much better. He has regained his appetite and weight. I think the other kitties in the house were happy when he got well again.

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For cats that show a tendency towards crystals in thier urine don't forget prescription diets. I have three that I generally add a bit of water to thier diets before serving. One of there cats got a more permanent surgical solution. Shelsea had a perineal urethrostomy several weeks ago since he has had to be unblocked several times. He is doing well now and has resumed his alpha cat status. The PU is expensive, but not more that several emergency clinic visits and follow up therapies. He has been on dietary contol since his first episode, so he had the surgery. I stayed home Thanksgiving with him since he had only had his surgery 2 days earlier for his post surgical care including IV catheter maint. every couple of hours.

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Before I got Bast I had a beautiful male calico named Callie. He was about ten years old when one of my younger brothers friends put ear mites in his ears. He went insane, my brother beat the...well you know what I mean...out of the guy that did it. We brought him to the vet and though he was able to save him he had similar symptoms and was dopey for pretty much the rest of his life. It was mites or ticks, I'm not sure which. But it is not hopeless, just get your cat to a vet. Nine is not that old for a cat, my first cat was 3 when I got him at the age of 7 and was around until my sophmore year in college when he was attacked by a dog. The cat in my profile pic is Bast...no he is not realated to Salem. He is so much better looking!

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HI,
I am so sorry you lost Sneakers.
It sounds like she went in peace though.
That is a long lifetime.
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When a cat is blocked they are going to die very fast. I hope many have learned a lesson from this post. Usually they have at most, 1-2 days and they die. Please people cats hide most signs of illness until it is often too late. I know money is a consideration to most, but we have to take care of them! Pets aren't disposable.
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actually crystals, and urinary tract infections and blockage can actually occur in very young cats. I knew someone that had a kitten! who got blocked. Talk to your vet about your 13 year old's signs of arthritis. i am guessing only, does he go out?
I don't let my cats out now, but years ago I did, or my family did. I had a wonderful huge black/white longhair named Oliver. He developed arthritis in his hips or back legs from jumping from unreal heights! He was a big cat too, about 17lbs in his prime. He was close to the size of a maine coon cat.
His vet allowed me to give him up to 3 adult asprin a week. Now ********** ASPRIN CAN KILL CATS********* if given improperly. I would consult with your vet! They have come out with new things that are probably less damaging. I Never once gave him the adult asprin. I gave him baby aspirin. It did help.
He didn't die from joint problems. His kidneys were loaded with stones ):
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7 is just hitting middle age for the most part. It sounds like he needs a thourogh check up. Maybe blood work, urinalysis. Something might be up.
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Your VERY right your cat needs to see a vet asap!
No it doesn't sound age related, he really isn't very old. It could be an abscessed tooth! The ear drainage needs to be looked into quickly also. It may be a clear liquid but who knows what it consists of.
I really think it would be prudent if you made an appt. today, as you may not get right in. How long has he had these symptoms? It sounds like something IS wrong and I doubt it will go away on it's own.
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I have a male cat that just recently turned 9 years old who shows no signs of slowing down. However there are two things that make me think he needs to be seen by a vet. After scratching in or around his ears, he will shake his head and clear fluid comes out of his ears. It is also not unusual for him to drool.

Has anyone else had either of these things happen with their cat? If so, what was the outcome?

Thank you for your input.

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How old does a cat have to be before he is "aging". I think Bast is 7 years old. His behavior has definitely changed, he prefers to be in during the day and in the back yard at night. He used to prowl the neighborhood.

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I have 5 male cats. My oldest is 13 and pretty healthy so far. Im concerned that he may be showing signs of arthritus. My youngest cat already experienced crystals in the kidney. Alomost lost him twice. We change cat foods many times before we found purina pro plan urinary tract health. Praise God he has had no episodes for 3 years.
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Update on the old man- Bismark. His weight has been between 9.5 and 10 pounds and most of the time he's pretty much back to himself, slower, but himself. Yesterday he played, ran around and weighed 10.5 - We don't know when or if he will relaps, but we are thankful for every day we still have with our old friend.

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We just went through a terrible time with our old guy. We've had him over 12 years and he was estimated to be between 2 and 4 then. He is a hybrid bobcat and always been healthy. The last year he's been losing weight and no one seems to know why.

Three weeks ago he got sick. All the blood work was fine except he had a high white cell count. He was put on antibiotics, steroids and pepsid. He had massive diarrhea and dropped from 10 pounds to 8.5 - and then one day he went to 7.5 and simply would not eat. We resolved ourselves to this was good bye. But my husband just wasn't ready. One more day. I called the vet and got something for the diarreah. The next day he started getting better. Now, one week later he is up to 9.5 pounds, getting in trouble and just being his old self!

He still needs to gain - his weight has always been 15-18 pounds, but our buddy is back!!

No one know what was wrong - but I do believe in miracles!

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Boys are bad for crystals and you need to keep your eye on them. My one keeps getting bladder infections and the white blood cells in his bladder clump together which can cause the blockage. His first time was in september of 2004 and we just had him in to the vet again over this past long weekend for the third time.

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Cats get deathly ill within just a few days from dehydration.

Our coon cat wouldn't eat or drink for our son for 2 days last year at Christmas when we were out of town. He got crystals which he had never had before, his kidneys shut down and he died by the end of the week, there wasn't much we could do for him. When his regular vet got back he told us the hydration was the key and we should have given him ringers at home, injecting it through the skin only, on his side. Chicken broth is great to give them when they don't feel like drinking, water is always great, just like for us.

Esp during summer months when water evaporates into the air, make sure to refill the water dishes.

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